47. Brief Responses
I. Dipen Banerjee
At first I must thank you, for sending such a valuable document written by Dr. Shreerang Godbole to a man like me of no importance.
Now I like to say something as a Hindu in general. Though I am not a Swayamsevak, I am closely related with the R.S.S. So I feel sad when I see that even a Nationalistic organisation like B.M.S. fails to understand the basic ideologies of the monotheistic traditions like Islam, Christianity and Judaism, and harps on the much vaunted theory of Sarva Pantha Samãdar. I fully see eye to eye with Dr. Godbole in his view that Sarva Pantha Samãdar goes against the basic principles of the monotheistic traditions and that what we need is not Sarva Pantha Samãdar but Sarva Pantha Chikitsã. Dr. Godbole has rightly pointed out that the basic problem is in those exclusivist ideologies which have been propagated for long as Dharma. It is sad that we do not go through the basic texts and try to understand the tenets of Islam and Christianity. The educated Hindus should read the Quran, the Hadith and the Bible if they want to know what has gone wrong with the minorities in India. Then they will see that, inspired by demonic traditions, they are getting ready to destroy the age-old and the most humanistic tradition of the world i.e. Hinduism.
So, I appeal to the leaders of the Sangh Parivar to go through the original texts, and to form a strong movement to free the helpless Muslims and Christians from their demonic ideologies. In fact, Sarva Pantha Chikitsã as it is termed by Dr. Godbole is the proper way to proceed. We have to free them from their brutal tradition to end the so-called minority problem. We have to wipe out these ideologies. And this can be done by arousing in them a strong feeling for their ancestral tradition - Hinduism.
of India has done a tremendous job by revealing the inherent doctrines
of the monotheistic traditions, and the big lies spread by the leftists
in the name of History. I hope that you will join hands with Dr. Godbole
to eleminate these ideologies which are known as monotheism.
II. Dr. V.S. Bhargava
My comments on the first document are:
1) This is a fact supported by history that all religions lead to God.
2) This is also historically correct that Congress used Muslims as Vote Banks.
3) As a student and Professor of History, I agree with the statement that Muslim leaders are responsible for the ghetto mentality of Muslims. Therefore the Namaz offered on disputed site or under mental tension is not acceptable to Allah.
Postscript in the letter of Dr. Godbole to Shri K.S. Sundarshan is very much in conformity with my views, i.e. �If they feel that Sanatan Dharma and Islam are worthy of equal respect, I see no reason for the VHP to continue its campaign of Parãvartan of Muslims and Christians.�
should be mass campaigning that �time is ripe when Hindus have to decide
that they are not to follow opportunist politicians who are worshippers
of power and chair because they can barter the hard earned freedom in the
name Development. In the background of their cry of Economic crisis one
can see their self-aggrandisement. Hindus should decide that for the sake
of their very existence and their religious principles they should do or
III. G.K. Dudani
Many thanks for sending �Time for Stock Taking� pamphlet.
2. I agree with the two brief comments of VOICE OF INDIA.
3. The effort of the RSS to propagate �Sarva Panth Samãdar Manch� will be an exercise in futility and will be reversing all the good work done by the Sangh so far. It appears that criticism of Hindu politicians and the isolation of BJP in the political arena, is now telling upon the Sangh.
4. Muslims will never accept Hindus as brethren as it will be un-Islamic. The Koran-Hadis teaches them hatred right at the young age. Fanatic Islamic organisations all over the world are creating fanatics who are brainwashed to think that by giving life for Islam, they will go to Heaven where they will enjoy beautiful Houris. What is needed is making known to Muslims the real facts about the life of Muhammad in a rational and critical mannar. But who will do that? Who is going to bell the cat?
5. What I am trying to drive at is that the two will never meet. The philosophy of the Manch will not work: it will be doing harm to the cause of Hinduism. Let the Sangh continue its work and spread to areas where it is still weak. Results are bound to come and the apple when ripe will fall in the lap of the Sangh.
IV. Om Prakash Gupta
expressed by Dr. Godbole on the listed points in italics in the first document
and fine points of the second document seem to be quite right. There cannot
be any dissent.
V. Prem Sagar Gupta
received your pamphlet �Time For Stock Taking�. I have gone through the
entire pamphlet and find myself in complete agreement with Dr. Godbole.
There appears to be some mistake on the part of our leaders; otherwise
this situation could have been avoided.
VI. A.K.R. Hemmady
My grateful thanks to VOICE OF INDIA for contributing to Amrit Manthan which is already on by circulating Shri Shreerang Godbole�s views. I fully agree that what we Hindus need is Sarva Pantha Chikitsã and not Sarva Pantha Samãdar.
begun writing my response and hope to complete it in a month�s time. However,
if I am late, please go ahead and publish the responses that you may receive
within the time limit set by you (please let me know the limit).
VII. A. P. Joshi
Thanks for sending the booklet �Time For Stock Taking�.
I agree with Dr. Shreerang Godbole�s stand.
There is a lot of confusion regarding words like Secular, Majority, Minority, Religion, Dharma, Hindutva, Humanity, Socialism, etc.
We have to produce literature for defining the above words in all Indian languages.
Hindu organizations should be capable of debating with intelligent and cunning people and able to convince ordinary people. Our people must know Hindu Religion, Philosophy, History, Arts and also about Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Socialism, Communism, and Fascism.
This is a difficult job, but because Hindus have lost their political eyesight as said by Vir Savarkar, we have to do it.
The creator of Pakistan is not Mr. Jinnah or the Muslims League but it is the Koran, says Vir Savarkar. Hindus have to remain alert and use the tit-for-tat rule against Islam and Christianity. Hindus have to raise a militia for their defence.
really want to make Hindu Rastra, then they must be practical as this is
a fight for the existence of Hindus. This is a fight between Akhand Hindustan
vs Akhand Pakistan.
VIII. Hari Narain
Dr. Shreerang Godbole has in his brief comments (as circulated by VOICE OF INDIA) raised many pertinent points; several of them have merit. In analysing these it would be relevant to first go beyond the points of dispute and see why an emerging line of reasoning which (at least on the face of it) gives the impression of a tilt or softening of approach towards the fundamentalist, intolerant or authoritarian aspects of Islam. It is known that in our democratic set-up, social or cultural organizations do not wield power but their political counterparts do so. And political power is the means for propagating your ideology (though it has also become a means for enriching oneself).
The question is whether after the Babri-structure-demolition electoral successes the BJP�s ambition to wield powers at the centre was premature. The failure at New Delhi and elsewhere to maintain the rising curve of electoral gains and the isolation from the so-called secular parties has probably made them search for a new vote bank and be perceived as not inimical towards Islam.
choice is between being in the wilderness for years, working selflessly
for changing, strengthening and broadening the base till power flows in
the right hands, or taking the course that the Indian National Congress
took prior to Independence i.e. power at any cost even if it be the partitioning
of the Motherland.
IX. K. Narasimhan
This is in immediate response to the pamphlet sent by you, TIME FOR STOCK TAKING: A Swayamsevak Speaks.
Indeed the TIME is overdue FOR radical STOCK TAKING of Islam, by way of an open invitation to the imãms and mullãhs (of Islam in India) for a dialogue on Islamic tenets and Islamic history in India since the 8th century AD. They need to be shown all the specific passages in the Koran and the Hadith that have actually instigated the followers of Islam to perpetrate their ceaseless violence in India against the Hindus. This I believe has never been done before, certainly not in secularist Congress regimes in this century. If the imãms (of P.V. Narasimha Rao�s erstwhile audience) refuse to come forward for such a dialogue, they will only confirm their servitude to their exclusivist fanaticism, which is the cause of all Islamic violence and hatred. They will have proved that the Muslims are indeed the �victims of Islam�.
If in the dialogues, the imãms refuse to admit that the instigatory passages in the Koran need to be abrogated, because they are �the divine commands of Allah�, then like the cohorts of Khara-DûshaNa in the RãmãyaNa, they are inviting their own annihilation. They can�t have it both ways indefinitely! This should have been their reception in full since the first Muslim invasion of India. At this point of time, the alternatives for the Muslims should be: Either reconvert to Hinduism or Quit India (Hindusthan +Pakistan+Bangladesh).
other hand, if India can throw up such ministerial heads as it has done
now, there must be something radically wrong in our political system. It
is just as urgent a TIME FOR STOCK TAKING with our electoral or
political system, to deal with our real ECONOMY and our real
ENEMIES - Islamists, Communists (Chinese and Local), and Secularists
(Congressmen and their stooges).
X. A.K. Ray
Thank you very much indeed for sending me a copy of �Time for Stock Taking�. On all the major points raised by Dr. Godbole I find myself completely in agreement with him.
I recall that quite sometime ago, at a meeting at the Deendayal Research Institute (DRI), at which Shri Sudarshan was also present, someone floated the idea that there should be an �opening towards the Muslims� using people like Waheeduddin Khan. I strongly opposed the idea, for I uncompromisingly believe that it is for the Muslims to take the initiative to assimilate themselves into Indianness, not for Hindus to induce them to do so with various palliatives and concessions. The idea of the �opening� is but another front opened by the Negationists as Koenraad Elst calls them.
be sending you my detailed response to Dr. Godbole�s points as well as
certain suggestions within the next few days. As against the fashionable
condemnation of Huntington�s thesis about a climactic civilisational conflict
with Islam, which even the Russians have now begun to echo, I believe that
there is no meeting ground between the utter ethical nihilism inherent
in Islam and its proscription of philosophical thought together with its
ideology of world-domination, and what human civilisation stands for. We
Hindus have to educate ourselves about it.
XI. Prabhakar Sata
I am in
full agreement with the views expressed frankly by Dr. Godbole
XII. C. A. Shakya
There is no doubt that Religion accounted for the foundation of PAKISTAN. Unless immediate and profound action is taken, there will be more Pakistans, Isaistans, Akalistans, Buddhistans, Marxistans, Indo-Anglostans and so forth.
While I comprehend Dr. Godbole�s indignation, sympathise and empathise with him, I recommend less talk and more action. Such organizations as Sarva Panth Samãdar are, - I fully agree with Dr. Godbole, - completely on the wrong tack.
As far as Religions go, the HINDU ideal is completely against any organisation of religion. All of them, in fact deliberately, come between MAN and the INFINITE. Fortunately, there is no HINDU ECCLESIA. Therefore, Dr. Godbole is right in setting his face against any truck with the totally unspiritual and purely power-and-pelf-hungry institutions that make Religion a narcotic, �the opium of the masses� as Marx aptly put it. The practices of alien �FAITHS� have even been copied by some Indian indigenous faiths. They have actually made Religion political, and Politics religio-communal. HINDUTVA alone keeps politics free from Religion and Religion free from politics. HINDUTVA alone enshrines Freedom of Thought and liberty of every Community. It alone avoids �MINORITISM� which has proved as banefully useful to the mountebanks who become politicians in India and pretend to be �secular�.
above personal observations I request complete anonymity as, to
re-establish Hindutva, complete anonymity is essential. I would respectfully
suggest that only positive steps be taken to reconstruct the Hindu Society
by Schooling, Mutual Aid Groups, Hindu Scout Movements, a la NCC, all training
of Youth to help in all contingencies, in natural or man-made disasters;
the latter being the more numerous and the more noxious. A strong cadre
of SEVAKS, including youth of both sexes, is India�s most urgent need.
Good English-cum-Sanskrit Schools must be given priority. As for those
communities which do not care for HINDUTVA, the most telling blow is to
ignore them openly and steadily to undermine their foundations by education
and the organisation of cadres therefore.
XIII. N. C. Singhvi
Received a pamphlet - Time For Stock Taking: A Swayamsevak Speaks. And he has spoken rightly. Perhaps we are searching short-cuts to the problem. There are no short-cuts to the problem. There are no short-cuts better than the RSS. The RSS and RSS alone can solve all the problems provided we all Swayamsevaks work earnestly.
came to India not to be assimilated but to assimilate. They cannot be assimilated
unless our country is declared Hindu Rashtra. Once it is so declared, they
will do the rest. We need not bother about them. Let us bother about ourselves.
We have given them undue importance unnecessarily. It shows our weakness,
XIV. T. Suryanarayana
I happened to read your pamphlet pertaining to the efforts of Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh to form �Sarvapanth Samãdar Manch� to accommodate Muslims and Christians. It is a naked truth that Muslims and Christians do not accept Sangh theology. Only Hindu Organisations put forth this concept to appease the minorities to ascend to the Delhi throne.
It is obvious that Hindus are not in a position to realise their decadent position even though many noble souls tried to awaken them from the stupor. They are prepared to accept Jesus Christ and Prophet Mohammed as incarnations of the Almighty.
Hindu Organisations have now degenerated to float the idea. It is the misfortune of Hindus that they are being betrayed by their political, social and spiritual leaders. Since last so many centuries, they have been humiliated and yet they are not in a position to reckon and take proper recourse of action. Thousands of temples were desecrated since their invasion by Muslims. Lakhs of Hindu were murdered and women were molested.
your anguish and concur with you. I assert that Vedic philosophy is the
only philosophy which covers the whole of humanity -- logical, scientific
and rational. Islam and Christianity, the Semitic religion, are unscientific,
illogical and irrational. They breed only hatred not only for other religions
but also among the different sects of their own religions.
XV. B. M. Thapar
refer to V of I pamphlet titled �Time for Stock Taking: A Swayamsevak
Speaks.� Dr. Godbole�s views are clearly expressed and I find myself in
XVI. B. G. Thattey
I fully agree with the views expressed by Dr. Godbole in the two documents received from you as well as your comments under �Time for Stock Taking�.
It is high time we all realize that the HINDU NATION OWES NOTHING TO THE MUSLIMS. However, some political leaders who are Hindu by religion but are sham practitioners of various issues like Communism, Congressism, Socialism, appeasementism, pseudo-Secularism etc., are being allowed by the Hindu masses to speak for them. These leaders are behaving as if Hindus owe something to Muslims. That is how V.P. Singh reportedly gave Rs. 50 lakhs of Government money to Bukhari and his mosque.
your organisation will help in eradicating this self-defeating idea from
the Hindu minds.
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II. The writer is a retired Principal now settled at Ajmer in Rajasthan.
III. The writer is a retired IAS officer now living in Ahmedabad in Gujarat.
IV. The writer lives in Jammu Tawi in the State of Jammu and Kashmir.
V. The writer is an Advocate who has been legal adviser to several Government organisation and who now practises law in Delhi.
VI. The writer lives in Mumbai. His response did not reach us in time.
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VIII. The writer lives in Gurgaon in Haryana and says that he is in no way connected with the Sangh Parivar.
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